Board Thread:Off-Topic Discussion/@comment-26044766-20150310183740/@comment-24796436-20150404202451

Gudine wrote: MDF infin wrote: Gudine wrote: "There is no one who loves pain itself, who seeks after it and wants to have it, simply because it is pain."

- A wise person

It sounds a bit circular to me. That quote is practically defining what pain is by saying no one wants it. What if pain is nothing more than intense sensation beyond a threshold, a sort of sensory perception overload if you will. Yes masochists enjoy pain because of an accompanying pleasure linked to it. Therefore, we know of those that seek pain for other things, but I think it is a flawed statement on the grounds of being an absolute. Use of the phrase "no one" provokes thoughts about all the currently known disorders and how it only takes one to counter the wisdom of that said person. However, it holds mostly true for "normal" people and pain doesn't seem to have any intrinsic value for any rational human being, so it still is nice to ponder over. Well I'm just a breakfast table thinker anyway. What do I know? If there are two people that love pain, this quote is still accurate if you bend the meaning in such a way. Why would I make a quarrel over the definition of pain in this context when in normal, everyday use we agree on what it is? Or perhaps my point presented is moot since there could always be some case of that "one person" that is the exception in theory, but until I find that one, how do I know they exist? How do I know that I'm not just a total idiot?

Thanks for the compliment and the thought provoking quote. I shall make a return to the chat. It just may be a little time before that happens. Working on being less busy if that makes sense. I also procrastinate but that's another discussion.
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